Wednesday, January 12, 2011

FORUM FOUND: A look inside the mind of erad3 (most-likely Jared Loughner)

If you watched the disturbing video of Jared Lee Loughner, he mentions a “forum”.
Loughner video:
I, and the forum moderators, it seems, believe at least one has been found.

We here at, our owners, staff, and membership find ourselves in the unfortunate position of apparently being one of the largest (if not the largest) repositories of online postings by someone who has been classified as a “monster” (among other things) due to his (accused) actions of two days ago. Online research that began on Reddit, and continued here on ATS has resulted in an overwhelming amount of anecdotal evidence to support the notion that the “erad3″ member account here is Jared Loughner. Indeed, the content found in more than 4,000 Google search returns (including some pages in the mainstream press) have drawn the same conclusion.
This is a rather unique situation, to say the least. I and our staff have been considering if we should provide a public statement, and if we do, what should we say? Especially since we’re already being contacted by the media for comment and more information.
The postings of “erad3″ reveal someone who clearly has many questions for which answers have been elusive if not outright impossible to obtain. And despite the best efforts by many of our members, it seemed there were no answers to be found here for which he was satisfied.
As is often typical, recent analysis in the media is rampant with all manner of conclusions, second-guesses, exaggerations, distortions, and missing information. The opinion of the staff and owners of is that it serves the public interest to provide an easy method to access every post made here by erad3 (normally, visitors must be logged-in to view such information).
Topics authored by erad3:
All aboard with the empty NASA Space Shuttles! (July 13, 2010)
Did NASA Fake the Mars Rovers? (July 12, 2010)
Infinite Source Of Currency!?!? (July 8, 2010)
Why is the year infinite in the date? (July 7, 2010)
Replies authored by erad3:
Posts by erad3
There appear to be no clues in these postings (the last on July 13th, 2010) that would raise any kind of “red flag” (at the time) beyond someone struggling with unanswered questions.
Some will noticed that his account has been terminated. This has been done to protect the integrity of a now widely known member account here: there is now such a great deal of information available which might provide clues to guess the password and either post as him, or obtain personal data.
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See the 130 or so postings here:


Registered: February 18, 2009
Location: The Hood
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Shooters mother works for Pima county—Sheriff Dupnik knew this.

Shooters mother works for Pima county—Sheriff Dupnik knew this.

H/T Jared Law
..Sheriff Dupnik’s Culpability
by Bill Hennessy on January 10, 2011 · ….According to an internal Department of Homeland Security memo, Jarod Lee Loughner’s mother “works for Pima County Board of Supervisors.”
In the memo, obtained by Fox News and posted on Greta Van Susteren’s blog, the DHS agent openly speculates about undue internal influence. That’s because Loughner’s arrests don’t all end with reasonable closure, if you will.
Here’s exactly what the DHS report says:
suspect’s mother works for the Pima County Board of Supervisors* the suspect has multiple arrests … But no criminal record? Intervention by someone?
It’s not unreasonable to assume that that “someone” is Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.
On Saturday evening, Dupnik took to the airwaves to create a sensation. He accused the people of Arizona, talk radio, Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, and the tea party of complicity in murder, effectively. The sheriff did so without evidence.
If Dupnik was involved in springing Loughner after one of the murderer’s many arrests, then Dupnik had strong motive to manufacture a bogeyman. If Dupnik helped keep Loughner stay out of the state psych system, then his motive doubles. There’s mounting evidence that Dupnik is guilty of both.
We already know that Dupnik refused to uphold Arizona’s SB1070. We already know that he holds the people of Arizona in the highest contempt. A law enforcement officer who despises the people he’s sworn to protect and who refuses to enforce the law he’s sworn to uphold is unfit for office.
If I were Arizona’s Attorney General, I’d be asking putting together a case for some warrants.
But, as Dennis Miller would say, that’s just my opinion; I could be wrong

Palin Aide Defends ‘ Crosshairs’ Politica l Map that Targeted Giffords’ District i n 2010

Palin Aide Defends ‘ Crosshairs’ Politica l Map that Targeted Giffords’ District i n 2010

Obviously with the tragic shooting in Arizona this week the issue of Sarah Palin’s reported use of “crosshairs” on a map has become a contenous issue. According to a Palin associate the symbol used on the map was a “surveyor’s symbol”. Of course many scoff at that and state it represents the crosshairs in a gun sight.
Palin Aide Defends ‘Crosshairs’ Political Map that Targeted Giffords’ District in 2010
What’s the truth?
I did a search and found two examples of survey symbols that match very closely the symbols used on the Palin map:
So the DNC used bulleyes to denote which states to target and Palin used survey symbols.
So which is worse, using a symbol that can be interpreted as crosshairs or a bulleyes? Or is there a difference?
Either way, the symbols used on Palin’s map do match known survey map symbols as shown above.
Draw your own conclusions as you will.
Image form Palin’s web site, clearly Surveyors Markers
The Democrat National Party Organization has previously used similar “targets” in their campaign rhetoric:
A spokeswoman for former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is decrying widespread “politicization” of Saturday’s shooting rampage in Arizona that has left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., fighting for her life.
“This is a terrible politicization of a tragedy,” Palin aide Rebecca Mansour told USA TODAY. “We don’t know (the shooter’s) motive. It doesn’t seem like he was motivated by a political ideology. Craziness is not an ideology,” she said.
In the hours since Saturday’s shooting, numerous media outlets and online bloggers have pegged Palin with accusations of inciting violence after the former vice president’s political action committee, SarahPAC, used what appeared to be rifle scope sights. Each “target” represented a House Democrat who voted for last year’s health care overhaul legislation who were from districts that Sen. John McCain carried in the 2008 presidential election.
Though Palin’s 2010 electoral map never put Giffords or any likeness of Giffords in the crosshairs, many were quick to make a connection.
After news of the shooting broke, Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas tweeted, “Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin,” with a link to another blogger’s rant about the electoral map targeting Giffords — all without a shred of evidence that the alleged shooter ever saw Palin’s electoral map, let alone interpreted it as some kind of twisted instruction.
A liberal blogger at FiredogLake also blamed Palin for Saturday’s shooting, suggesting Giffords was on Palin’s “hit list,“ and claiming her ”Don’t Retreat – Instead Reload” slogan is no longer a metaphor.
While such irresponsible assumptions may be expected from an amateur blogger, the blame game has also been playing out in the national mainstream media. As we noted, one CNN anchor claimed that Palin “allowed” the shooting to happen. One New York Daily News reporter claimed that Palin had Gabrielle Giffords’ blood on her hands.
Sadly, many elected officials have done little try and stem the tide of wrongful backlash toward Palin. Rep. Raul Grijalva, the Democratic representative from the district adjacent to Giffords’, remarked to the Huffington Post that Palin “need to look at her own behavior.” ”
If she wants to help the public discourse,” Grijalva said, “the best thing she could do is to keep quiet.”
Sen. Dick Durbin, the second-ranking Democratic leader in the Senate also pointed the finger at Palin and her 2010 political map during an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union.
“These sorts of things, I think, invite the kind of toxic rhetoric that can lead unstable people to believe this is an acceptable response,” Durbin said.
But Sen. Lamar Alexander defended Palin against the accusations and condemned the media for trying to make the connection.
By Saturday evening, SarahPAC had deleted the image from its website after Palin extended her personal condolences to the shooting victims via her Facebook page.
“We had thought that ‘Take back the 20’ was taken down after the November election because it’s irrelevant now,” Mansour said. “And they called us this morning and said, ‘Do you want us to take this thing down?’ Because they realized instantly, you know.”
“And I think, you know, just reflectively without even thinking about any consequences, our PAC treasurer said, ‘Well it should have been down already. Why is it still up? We are not paying for that. It is not getting any traffic. It is no longer relevant.’ So it was taken down.”
“It was not trying to scrub anything. The original Facebook post where we had this graphic is still up. And I just want to clarify again, maybe it wasn’t done on the record enough by us when this graphic came out, the graphic is, we never, ever, ever intended it to be gun sights. It was simply crosshairs.”
Using militant rhetoric in politics is indeed nothing new and Palin is far from the first politician to utilize such imagery. In 2008, then-Sen. Barack Obama told his supporters that if his opponents “bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.“ Politicians from all ideologies are constantly talking about ”targeting” voters, yet no one would accuse them of wanting to shoot them.
Despite his apparent outrage over Palin’s rhetoric, Kos’ Moulitsas has previously urged his own readers to “target” Giffords and put a bullseye on her district because she “sold out the Constitution…”
Harry Mitchell, former head of the Arizona Democratic Party put his own 2006 Republican opponent, Rep. J.D. Hayworth, in the crosshairs in a televised campaign ad and the national party organization has previously used similar “targets” in their campaign rhetoric.
“The language of targeting a swing district has been used long before we used it,” Palin’s aide noted. “We have no idea whether that person ever saw that graphic.”
While the media debates what role political rhetoric plays in driving someone to murder, Palin’s camp continues to deny any role in spurring violence.
“We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights,” Mansour told talk radio host Tammy Bruce, noting that the graphic was contracted out and that Palin staffers approved it without much thought. “It never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent.” (click here for audio)
“We are all looking at our Twitter feeds and I am seeing people and it’s really sad,” Mansour said. “People actually accuse Gov. Palin of this. It’s appalling. Appalling. I cannot even express how disgusting that is.”

Gates of Vienna: Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/11/2011

Gates of Vienna: Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/11/2011: "There has been another deadly attack on Coptic Christians in Egypt. This time the incident occurred on a train, and according to some report..."

Monday, January 10, 2011

My Posts on The Assasination Attempt on Gabby Giffords by Jared Lee Loughner

Another Way of Looking at the Arizona Tragedy

by Lynn Vogel on Sunday, January 9, 2011

A full day after the lunatic in Tuscon lashed out against innocents I still have trouble locating all of the facts of the story. It may be several days yet before the dust settles and truth is more clearly defined. What was immediately apparent is that many were eager to use the tragedy as a platform for finger pointing at entire groups of Americans.
This shooter does not represent a group, he was just a psycho that acted either on his own or with one other psycho. The liberals do not seek to train or empower such people and neither do those of us on the right. Sometimes a nut is just a nut.
The irresponsible socialist liberals in our media were immediately ranting about Sarah Palin and the Tea Party people for instigating this mans acts. Within hours it became obvious the gunman is a lefty but the attacks against the right continued. It is disgusting to see how this is playing out but everyone is writing about that so I’ll not be redundant.
Throughout the day the news came to me in a scrambled mess of tidbits and rumors. While the details were sketchy, the reaction was very clear. I get info and contacts from all across this nation, from both the right and left. We get hundreds of emails daily and yesterday was more than we could process. The trends were surprising. It was not just the media monkeys blaming Sarah, the Tea Parties and the right in general. It was almost every lefty I heard from. Regular people-on-the-street type liberals. Almost immediately we began to receive messages asking if I was proud of our right wing terrorists etc. The response from the left was to blame us and demand more controls on our speech and gun Rights. They instantly sought to use the unfolding news as leverage for limiting our Constitutional Rights.
We also received many messages from those who are solidly on the right. The difference in the tone was amazing. My friends on the right were reminding all to pray for the victims. They were asking everyone to remember there were more victims than the 2 high profile public figures. They were offering heartfelt condolences to the family members of all and many were horribly shattered by the death of the poor little 9 year old girl, Christina-Taylor Green. A few were politicizing it but very few. Most were warning about jumping to conclusions before the facts were straight. While the socialists were fanning the flames of division the Con-Pats were calling for patience and sanity.
So, the left was ranting and positioning for use of the tragedy while the right was praying and offering condolences. Once again I was reminded of why I am proud to be an active member of the right.
I thank-you all for the decency shown when it mattered. I am proud to live in a nation that produces such people. I am proud to call them friends.
Other crimes of a political nature may occur because the tension level in this nation is extremely high. I hope not but this is a big nation with many crazy people. In times of national tragedy it is manifest that we allow the better angels of our nature guide us. We cannot let events snowball past their beginnings.
The talking heads are now trying to decide what this crime says about our nation. I have yet to hear one get it right. What this tells me about our nation is the tension is building to the point where the nuts can no longer take it. One of our weak links just snapped.
This is life in Obama’s America, “Obamica.” The socialist liberals who desire the destruction of our capitalist system and Constitutional Republic have a their man in the White House and they know if they fail now they may never see such an opportunity again. The rebellion against Obama’s change is building to a roar and this is very troubling for them. They are feeling threatened and the fear is turning into anger in many of them. That is what gave us the Tuscon tragedy.
The Con-Pats are worried too and they have good reason to be. They are finally starting to realize that the elections of 2010 were too little, too late. Congress may be able to slowly chip around the edges of Obama’s accomplishments but it will be a long bitter battle of limited success. Meanwhile, Obama is still busy and the dismantling of our economy, Rights, our oil industry and national security continue. This truth is creating a great deal of stress for Patriots and when people look for a solution, none seem to be available. Waiting for 2012 is all they’ve got and too much permanent damage can occur long before then. Thus, the fear and anger from the right builds too.
This is Obama’s America. For a man who was elevated as a hotshot community organizer, he is absolutely failing in organizing or uniting this country. Obama’s America is one where all people are now under a great deal of stress regarding the future. He is extremely, and deliberately divisive yet he is not able to bring a sense of hope to either side of America’s social fabric. Everyone is tense. Everyone is unhappy with the current status of this nation, Obama’s America is a shambles.
The situation is bad and needs a strong confident leader advising calm and providing a vision for better times to come. Instead, Obama makes completely foolish incendiary comments such as a Republican win would bring hand to hand combat at the Capital. He also met with black community and religious leaders in September and advised them to go to their neighborhoods and tell all to be ready to “guard the change” as Republican seek to unravel his destructive policies. This sort of nonsense coming from any national figure is irresponsible. Coming from a sitting President they are dangerous. To carelessly use terms that a nut can misconstrue as a call to violence is absolutely unacceptable from a President. Obama’s America is a powder keg. We just witnessed an eruption and the next few news cycles will be spent investigating where the spark came from. I think it is more important to ask how we became a powder keg and what can be done to back us out of the situation. Why is our wonderful nation now in such a state of confusion and fear? The sounds of gunfire are now silent in Tuscon but the tensions and concerns that become over-powering for the crazy few are still in place.
This is Obama’s America.
Copyright 2010 F. Lynn Vogel USA May be shared or copied in its entirety with credit to 20 turns Project
Lynn Vogel We do not normally write Daily Updates for our site, but after the tragedy this weekend it seemed appropriate. This is that update. We had to do it because even Fox News is missing the truth about this shooting. There things that must be said and the big picture always matters.
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Has the Progressive revolution begun, has the first shot been fired?

H/T to Rhonda: Classmate of shooter describes Loughner as “Left-Wing Pothead.” Has the Progressive revolution begun, has the first shot been fired? Remember the left and Van Jones calls for a violent revolution, “Top down, bottom up and inside out,” Van Jones words. Van Jones Friend of Obama, remember Obama himself said ” Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight when he was referring to the Republicans, pre-election.
Jared Loughner, Alleged Shooter in Gabrielle Giffords Attack, Described by Classmate as “Left-Wing Pothead”
Jared Loughner is described as a “left-wing political radical.”
​A classmate of the man accused of shooting Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords this morning describes him as “left wing” and a “pot head” in a series of posts on Twitter this afternoon.
Caitie Parker did not immediately respond to our request for an interview, but her “tweets” in the hours after the shooting paint a picture of Jared Loughner as a substance-abusing loner who had met Giffords before the shooting. She says, Loughner described the congresswoman as “stupid and unintelligent.”
We’ve confirmed that Parker and Loughner went to school together at Mountain View High School in Tucson and that both attended Pima Community College, so her claims of knowing Loughner seem to be legit.
Parker “tweets” that she and Loughner were in the band together and were friends until 2007 when he became “reclusive” after getting alcohol poisoning and dropping out of college.
She describes him as “quite liberal” and as a “political radical.”
Below is a log of “tweets” posted by Parker beginning around the time of the shooting.
  1. @antderosa it’s loughner just checked my year book. less than 20 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa
  2. @lakarune I haven’t seen him since ’07. Then, he was left wing. 25 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to lakarune
  3. @noboa more left. I haven’t seen him since ’07 though. He became very reclusive. 27 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to noboa
  4. @antderosa he had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in ’06, & dropped out of school. Mainly loner very philosophical. 29 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa
  5. @antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy. 33 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa
  6. @antderosa he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven’t seen him in person since ’07 in a sign language class 35 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa
  7. @antderosa He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in ’07, asked her a question & he told me she was “stupid & unintelligent” 37 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa
  8. @antderosa I can. That is him. 39 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa
  9. @antderosa I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific. 43 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa
  10. Official I went to high school & college, & was in a band w/ the gunman. I can’t even fathom this right now. about 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone
  11. Saying Jared Laughner was the gunman. Really hoping that’s not the same guy I went to HS with, really good friend. Freaking out right now!!! about 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone
  12. antderosa Arizona law enforcement official: “A person in the crowd shot back at the gunman.” about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
Check out Parker’s Twitter page here.
We’ve contacted Parker to try to get more information about Loughner. We’ll let you know if she gets back to us.
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Megyn Kelly Confronts Liberal Sheriff Dupnik Over His Attempts to Politicize Shooting – Video

Megyn Kelly confronts Sheriff Clarence Dupnik over his attempts to politicize the mass shooting in Arizona that left six people dead. Dupnik has been trying to link the shooting to “vitriol” coming from talk radio and “bigotry that goes on in this country.”
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Yow, one leads to another and so on…another youtube page for Jared Loughner. I followed links from AS and noticed the Classitup10 link was gone but right close by is bigjared420, too much coincidence so to the link I go and there, under his favorite videos is Classitup10! How many more does he have? idk, I’m still looking since the media and law enforncement don’t seem to care about the truth, only sensational headlines.
So far we have:
TheGreatPiniter’s Channel
Starhitshnaz’s Channel
This story is going from tragic to weird. Go to this You Tube page. It appears to be Representative Gifford’s genuine You Tube Channel page, as a general You Tube search for Channels with “gifford” turns up this page. On the bottom left are the channels she is subscribed to. The left most Channel appears to be that of the shooter when you click through.
Here’s the screen grab of Congresswoman Gifford’s page (the page was long, it’s in two sections):

Here’s the bottom of the page (it was too long to grab in a single shot). The left most subscription “Classitup10″ appears to be a page with the name “Jared Lee Loughner” (Link here):

H/T to my Blogtalkradio friend, Bigfoot! “According to the Legal Insurrection link, in
his safe Loughner had a letter from Rep. Giffords
from 2007.  That was before anyone outside of
Alaska (myself included) heard of Sarah Palin, and
before the Tea Party movement existed.”
Sunday, January 9, 2011

Five Criminal Charges Filed Against Jared Lee Loughner

Charges have been filed against Jared Lee Loughner in federal court in Arizona:
Ct. 1: 18:351C.F–Congressional, Attempt To Kill;
Ct. 2: 18:1114 and 1111–Murder First Degree;
Ct. 3: 18:1114 and 1111–Murder First Degree;
Ct. 4: 18:1114 and 1113–Attempted Murder;
Ct. 5: 18:1114 and 1113–Attempted Murder
All of the charges related to distinctly federal aspects of the murders of Congresswoman Giffords and her staff, and federal Judge Roll, all of whom were performing their official duties at the time.  (See below as to why Judge Roll was at the event).  This federal complaint does not address the others killed, so we can expect state charges as well.
Here are some interesting aspects of the Affidavit which accompanied the Complaint.
Judge Roll attended the event in order to speak with Congresswoman Giffords (emphasis mine):
“On January 9,2011, your affiant spoke with U.S. Marshal David Gonzales, who stated that the Honorable John M. Roll, Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Arizona, had worked with Congresswoman Giffords within the last several months to resolve issues related to the volume of cases filed in the District of Arizona. Judge Roll was notified about Congresswoman Giffords’ event telephonically on or about January 7, 2011. Having spoken to Pia Carusone, the Chief of Staff for Congresswoman Giffords in Washington D.C., U.S. Marshal Gonzales reports that Ron Barber, a staff person for Congresswoman Giffords who was present at the event, stated that Judge Roll attended the event and sought to speak to Congresswoman Giffords, and spoke with Mr. Barber about issues related to the volume of federal cases in the District of Arizona; Judge Roll expressed his appreciation to Mr. Barber for the help and support that Congresswoman Giffords had given. Your affiant reviewed a digital surveillance video depicting the events at the Safeway; in the video, Judge Roll is seen speaking for several minutes with Mr. Barber.”
A letter was found at Loughner’s home, marked “I planned ahead” and “my assassination” (emphasis mine):
“On January 8, 2011, a search warrant was executed at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue in Tucson, Arizona, where LOUGHNER resides. Some of the evidence seized from that location included a letter in a safe, addressed to “Mr. Jared Loughney” at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue, from Congresswoman Giffords, on Congressional stationary, dated August 30, 2007, thanking him for attending a “Congress on your Corner” event at the Foothills Mall in Tucson. Also recovered in the safe was an envelope with handwriting on the envelope stating “I planned ahead,” and “My assassination” and the name “Giffords,” along with what appears to be LOUGHNER’s signature.”
Here is the Complaint and accompanying affidavit:
See the Scribe page here:    USA v. Loughner – Criminal Complaint 1-9-2011

UPDATE Congresswoman Shot By Complete Loser

This is a very important read. We must recognize crazy (without politics involved) when it’s in our face.
Please take the time to read this article by CJ at A Soldiers Perspective.
Best advice I have heard…. “This isn’t an event that calls for the right to blame the left and the left to blame the right. It’s a time to pray for he families that were affected.”
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Possible new video of Jared Loughner found on youtube

pulled from a ‘friends’ search of one of several accounts on youtube Loughner has…
Photos Of Shooting Suspect Jared Loughner

Handgun Found On His MySpace Page

Before its content was deleted following today’s shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, the alleged gunman’s MySpace page included, as seen above, a picture of suspect Jared Loughner and a photo of what appears to be a Glock 9mm handgun atop a U.S. history textbook.
The images were among a handful of photos on Loughner’s MySpace page, where he used the nickname “fallenasleep.”
Loughner, 22, was taken into custody shortly after this morning’s shooting spree outside a Tuscon supermarket. According to news reports, Loughner shot Giffords and 11 other victims with a Glock 9mm.

Catie Parker Identifies Jared Lee Loughner As Being Left Wing

We learn from an old acquaintance of Jared Lee Loughner that he was Left Wing. From Catie Parker’s feed:

HT: Ann Althouse and Gateway Pundit
Screengrab of Myspace stream from Jared Loughner (Jared Loughner) | Stream_1294520903241
Larger size:

If you aren’t subscribed, I’d go do it now…

Screen-Shot/Loughners Facebook~Worked For C. P. S.-Interested In MEN & “Wanted 2 Be A WOMAN”

The Link if you need it for bigger picture: You will be able to see at the bottom of the page, he was interested in MEN, and wanted to be a WOMAN: Clearly NOT a conservative idealist. (A Photo of him @ Book fair at bottom of pg.)
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UPDATED: She Has A Name: Christina Taylor Greene, 9 Yr. Old Killed In Tucson Massacre, Born on 9/11/01

Gateway Pundit
Christina liked ballet and baseball.

9 year-old Christina Taylor Green, who was murdered today at Safeway in Tuscon, was born on 9-11.
All Voices reported:
Christina Taylor Green, nine-year-old victim in today’s Tucson shootings, once was an infant designated to be a “Face of Hope” by virtue of her birth on September 11, 2001. She was one of the children born on 9/11, reports Tucson blogger David Abie Morales. She is featured in the book by Christine Pisera Naman, entitled Faces of Hope, Babies Born on 9/11, dedicated to all the mother who gave birth and to their babies born on the day the World Trade Towers in New York City were taken down in an act of terrorism.
Ironically, today her life ended in violence, as she fell under the attack of a gunman at a political function at a supermarket.
A neighbor was going to the Giffords event today, the Arizona Republic reports, and invited Christina along simply because she thought she would enjoy it, according to Christina’s uncle, Greg Segalini. Christina was newly elected to the student council at her school.
The event, an opportunity for constituents to meet Giffords and discuss any concerns they had related to the federal government, was an outdoor family friendly event.
A talented girl, Christina Green participated in many activities, ranging from ballet to baseball.

(My FOX Phoenix)
RIP: Christina Green 9; G Zimmerman 30; J Roll 63; D Murray 76; D Stoddard 76; P Scheck 79
More on the victims – here.
Oh, how sad.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the all of the families.
She Has A Name…

via KVOA
The identity of the 9-year-old tragically killed in this morning’s deadly rampage is Christina Taylor Greene.
Family says she was vibrant, excited about life, and she was the “best daughter in the world.”
Born on September 11, 2001, Greene was excited about the political process, was on the student government, and went to the Giffords event today to learn more about the political process, family members say.
Greene attended Mesa Verde Elementary School. She was the only girl on the CDO baseball team – she loved the sport, as well as horseback riding and swimming.
The Pima County Sheriff’s Office has released the identities of the six people killed in this morning’s tragic shooting.
-John Roll, 63, a federal district court judge.
-Gabriel Zimmerman, 30, Giffords’ director of community outreach
-Dorwin Stoddard, 76, a pastor at Mountain Ave. Church of Christ.
-Christina Greene, 9, a student at Mesa Verde Elementary
-Dorthy Murray, 76
-Phyllis Scheck, 79
The suspect is being interviewed at PCSO headquarters currently, and will be transported to jail later this evening, deputies say.

SCREENSHOT: Daily KOS Ginned up Hate Against Arizona’s Gabrielle Giffords — “My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!”

So all you libtarbs who want to whine, it is your very own compadre, one Jared Lee Loughner, who committed this atrocious act….and he was more than likely spurred on by your bible, the Daily Kos!…leave a comment if you like but do not expect it to be published…
Here’s a screen shot (maybe evidence), now pulled, from the DailyKos, dated from January 6, 2011, that may be related to the Arizona shooting, 6 dead, 19 injured. The headline of the page is :
My CongressWOMAN [Gabrielle Giffords] voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
DailyKos Screenshot-1
The page has since been taken down. Screen shot hat tip Tycho
My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
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by BoyBlue
Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST
I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords’ district. I worked like a dog for her elections when she was in the Arizona House, surrounded by rightwing nutcases. When Arizona re-districted in 2002, a seat opened up and she was right smack in the middle of it. So was I because I live in Oro Valley, Arizona, which is at the heart of that – then – new CD. I was one of several people to talk her into running and pledging complete loyalty and pledging to raise as much money as possible for her.
She ended up running for the first time against a fellow AZ House member, Randy Graf who was a rightwing whacko who advocated guns in bars and was the “Russell Pearce before Russell Pearce” vis-a-vis border issues. With a LOT of hard work and plenty of money, Gabby won. Easier than thought, too. I never like to throw money in people’s faces, but i have given Gabrielle Giffords THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars in both good times and bad times for me financially.
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Fast forward to this election season. A weirdo asshole named Jesse Kelly who advocated ELIMINATING Social Security and was a tea bagger favorite got the GOP nom to run against her. I am gay and had been married and my spouse left me January 15, 2010. I shot myself in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt, because of that. Barely surviving, I spent two months in the hospital and still have some paralysis. I did receive a severance from my employer, as i had been laid off in December, 2009. That may have been part of the reason my spouse left me.
Anyway, after months of physical and mental rehab, I got back into the political scene and started working for Gabby once again. I raised over $100,000 for her and maxed her out myself out of my severance, even though i still don’t have work and could not qualify for state aid because of my severance.
She wins her re-election and told me she was still a supporter of Speaker Pelosi at her victory party. We talked about how Nancy Pelosi was a successful woman and accomplished oh so much in just four years as Speaker.
Today, just a little while ago, I saw on Andrea Mitchell Reports (out of the one eye in can still see out of) that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader. Rhetorical question: I fought back from my condition and jumped in with both feet to help Gabrielle Giffords for THIS shit???
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won’t lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future. And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat. And her voting record is okay. Damn.

Is this Jared Loughner?

Is this Jared Loughner, this deeply disturbed individual…pulled from a ‘friends’ search of one of several accounts on youtube Loughner has…
Photos from the AZ paper, high school yearbook and youtube video from Loughners ‘friends’ list…
From the 2006 Mountain View High School yearbook:

Photos Of Shooting Suspect Jared Loughner, Handgun Found On His MySpace Page

Before its content was deleted following today’s shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, the alleged gunman’s MySpace page included, as seen above, a picture of suspect Jared Loughner and a photo of what appears to be a Glock 9mm handgun atop a U.S. history textbook.

The images were among a handful of photos on Loughner’s MySpace page, where he used the nickname “fallenasleep.”
Loughner, 22, was taken into custody shortly after this morning’s shooting spree outside a Tuscon supermarket. According to news reports, Loughner shot Giffords and 11 other victims with a Glock 9mm.

Catie Parker Identifies Jared Lee Loughner As Being Left Wing

We learn from an old acquaintance of Jared Lee Loughner that he was Left Wing. From Catie Parker’s feed:

HT: Ann Althouse and Gateway Pundit
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Leftist who hates America, teachers taught him well, Jared Loughner

Flag-burning, Leftist, MeinKampf-loving, Saul Alinsy follower, Communist amnifesto reader Jared LoughnerAmerica: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country! Jared Lee Loughner self-video-taped,his youtube name and ramblings…Starhitshnaz | October 02, 2010 =| If there’s no flag in the constitution then the flag in the film is unknown.There’s no flag in the constitution.Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown.Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag! I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed. Watch this protest in reverse! Ask the local police; “What’s your illegal activity on duty?”.If you protest the government then there’s a new government from protesting. There’s not a new government from protesting.Thus, you aren’t protesting the government.There’s something important in this video: There’s no communication to anyone in this location.You shouldn’t be afraid of the stars. There’s a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. The rarest bird on earth, there’s no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body. It’s with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there’s only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government? I want you to imagine a comet or meteoroid coming through the atmosphere.On the other hand, welcome yourself to the desert: Maybe your ability to protest is from the brainwash of the current government structure.

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Shooter ID’d

Jared Lee Loughner has been identified as the man suspected of shooting Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).
Loughner was described by eyewitnesses at the Arizona shooting as a young white man who looked like a “fringe character,” in his mid-to-late 20s, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing.
Loughner shot Giffords and some 12 others at a public event at a Safeway grocery store in Tucscon. He reportedly shot the congresswoman “point blank” in the head and may have come from inside the store. He attempted to flee after running out of ammunition and was tackled by one of Giffords’ staffers.
A MySpace page belonging to a “Jared Lee Loughner,” age 22, of Tucson, was taken down. A YouTube account also exists in his name.
Here’s what was listed on his MySpace page before it was removed:
Schools:I attended school: Thornydale elementary,Tortolita Middle School, Mountain View Highschool, Northwest Aztec Middle College, and Pima Community College.
Interests:My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college!
Movies:(*My idiom: I could coin the moment!*)
Music:Pass me the strings!
Books:I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
A “Jared Loughner” once volunteered at the Festival of Books in Tucson and was photographed at that event here by the Arizona Daily Star.

Tucson Festival of Books Mamta Popat/Arizona Daily Star Jackie Storrer, right, tries her best to figure out the

clues on a giant crossword as Jared Loughner, a volunteer, stands in the background during the Tucson Festival of Books.

Loughner’s youtube page until they shut it down
Many, including myself, have done video grabs so just do a web search

the students for DREAM Act have threatened congress members over DREAM Act, looks like they meant it!

Diagnosis: Promising, Rep Giffords doctor…..
Details emerge about the shooter Jared Loughner., pictured below. In addition to numerous details about his life, such as his favorite books, among which are The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf, we find the following suicide video. Incidentally his MySpace site has already been taken down.
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., poses with House Speaker John Boehner Wednesday on Capitol Hill in Washington.Enlarge Susan Walsh/AP Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., poses with House Speaker John Boehner Wednesday on Capitol Hill in Washington.

Arizona Congresswoman Shot Outside Grocery Store (Update)

Arizona Congresswoman Shot Outside Grocery Store (Update)A gunman indiscriminately fired into a crowd at a gathering for Democratic representative Gabrielle Giffords outside a Safeway in Tucson, Arizona this morning. Giffords and at least five others were shot, according to NPR. The gunman was tackled and arrested.
Update: Giffords has died, according to Reuters.
We spoke to an eyewitness, Steven Rayle who was on the scene at the time of the shooting and helped to hold the suspect down while waiting for police. Here’s what he said:
The event was very informal: Gifford had set up a table outside the Safeway and about 20-30 people were gathered to talk to her. The gunman, who may have come from inside the Safeway, walked up and shot Gifford in the head first. According to Rayle, who is a former ER doctor, Gifford was able to move her hands after being shot.
After shooting Gifford, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a few seconds, hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than 10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead. When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee, but a member of Gifford’s staff tackled him. Rayle helped hold the gunman down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-or 20 minutes later. 30 minutes later the EMS came. Rayle said he was “stunned” by how long it took medical help to arrive.
The man was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down. He didn’t look like a businessman, but more of a “fringe character,” Rayle said.
CNN is reporting that at least 12 were wounded.
UPDATE: Rep Giffords died….she will be so missed by so many. Such a senseless act!
Gabby Giffords is Pro Life & Pro AZ Immigration Law
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., poses with House Speaker John Boehner Wednesday on Capitol Hill in Washington.

Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

January 8, 2011
U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot outside a grocery store in Tucson while holding a public event, Arizona Public Media reported Saturday.
The Democrat, who was re-elected to her third term in November, was hosting a “Congress on Your Corner” event at the Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media.
At least five other people, including members of her staff, were hurt. Giffords was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Her condition was not immediately known.
Giffords was talking to a couple when the suspect ran up firing indiscriminately and then ran off, Michaels said. According to other witnesses, he was tackled by a bystander and taken into custody.
Giffords was first elected to represent Arizona’s 8th District in 2006. The “Congress on Your Corner” events allow constituents to present their concerns directly to her.
More details to come.

Storm'n Norm'n: Arizona Murders/Assassinations Linked To Obama

Storm'n Norm'n: Arizona Murders/Assassinations Linked To Obama

Monday, January 10, 2011

Arizona Murders/Assassinations Linked To Obama
Source: THE EUROPEAN UNION TIMESTop US Federal Judge Assassinated After Threat To Obama AgendaA Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s private retirement and banking accounts in order to stave off their nations imminent economic collapse, and after having the US Marshals protecting him removed.According to this SVR report, Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll was the Chief Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who this past Friday issued what is called a “preliminary ruling” in a case titled “United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al” [Case Number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed: November 30, 2010] wherein he stated he was preparing to rule against Obama’s power to seize American citizens money without clear and convincing evidence of a crime being committed.The case being ruled on by Judge Roll, this report continues, was about bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States that the Obama administration claimed was their right to seize under what are called Presidential Executive Orders, instead of using existing laws. The Obama administration used as support for their claim before Judge Roll, the SVR says, the seizing of all American citizens’ gold, in 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s signing of Executive Order 6102, which was ruled at the time to be constitutional.Should the Obama administration win their argument to seize their citizen’s money by Executive Order without having to abide by the law was made more chilling this past week when reports emerged from the US stating that President Obama and his regime allies were, indeed, preparing to rule America by decree since their loss this past November of their control over the US House of Representatives, and in the words of the Washington Posts columnist Charles Krauthammer: “For an Obama bureaucrat … the will of the Congress is a mere speed bump”.Since taking office in early 2009, Obama has completely overturned the once free United States through his use of Executive Orders that asserts his power to put anyone he wants in prison without charges or trial forever and his right to assassinate any American citizen he deems a threat.The most chilling of these powers Obama has asserted for himself, however, are contained in Executive Order 13528 he signed nearly a year ago (January 10, 2010) creating a Council of Governors he has hand-picked to rule over the United States in place of its elected representatives when their next “disaster” strikes and orders them to begin “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; and other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities”.Going from the chilling to the outright scary, about whatever “disaster” the American regime is preparing their people for, is Obama’s Homeland Security Department, through their Ready.Gov organization, beginning to air this past week a public service television commercial titled “World Upside Down” that shows a typical family sitting in their home suddenly losing all of its gravity and warning all who watch it to begin preparing.Note: In our previous reports US Descends Into Total Police State As 2012 ‘Solar Chaos’ Fears Grow, Pole Shift Blamed For Russian Air Disaster, Closure Of US Airport and Poisonous Space Clouds Slamming Into Earth Cause Mass Bird And Fish Deaths we had detailed some of fears the US government are most worried about, but which they still will not be truthful to their citizens about.

$387/Day Part Time WorkInteresting to note about the assassination of Judge Roll is that it is being blamed on a “lone gunman” said to be mentally unstable (aren’t they all) said directed at a US Congresswoman named Gabrielle Giffords, who survived this mass killing, and that killed at least 5 other innocent people, including a 9-year-old girl named Christina Taylor Green “curiously” born on September 11, 2001 (9/11).Equally interesting to note about the assassin, a 22-year-old man named Jared Loughner, is that he is being described by the propaganda media organs in the US as an “anti-government” type individual who prior to this mass killing is said to have left “crazed rantings” on the Internet, but whose “handler”, described as a white male between 40-50 years old with dark hair, is still being sought after.The circumstances surrounding Judge Roll’s assassination by Loughner, also, mirror those of Farouk Abdulmutallab (aka The Underwear Bomber) who “used cash to buy a one-way ticket to the United States at the last minute while carrying no luggage and being on a terrorist watch list. Incredibly, his father had communicated to the US Embassy in Nigeria in November that Abdulmutallab had been radicalized and may be planning a terrorist attack.At least one witness—passenger Kurt Haskell—claimed that a well-dressed Indian man had escorted Abdulmutallab to the ticket counter and told a ticket agent that Abdulmutallab didn’t have a passport but needed to get on the plane.”To if this Loughner is able to join the long list of CIA/US Military “mind controlled” assassins there appears to be no doubt as his actions, past, present and future, shows his fitting the “profile” of these maniacs as detailed in the massive lawsuit currently wending its way through the US Federal Court system [United States District Court Northern District Of California, San Francisco Division Case: CV-09-0037] filed against the US government by hundreds of veterans, and as we can read as reported by the Raw Story news service:“It’s well known that the CIA began testing substances like LSD on soldiers beginning in the 1950s but less is known about allegations that the agency implanted electrodes in subjects. A 2009 lawsuit claimed that the CIA intended to design and test septal electrodes that would enable them to control human behavior. The lawsuit said that because the government never disclosed the risks, the subjects were not able to give informed consent.”To if the American people will ever be told the truth about Loughner and his assassination of Judge Roll there seems little doubt as the Obama regime is fighting with everything it has to keep the information on these “mind controlled” assassins secret, and as we can read as reported by the Courthouse News service:“The Central Intelligence Agency in January (2011) will argue for dismissal of Vietnam veterans’ claims that the CIA must provide them with information about the health effects of chemicals used on them during Cold War-era human experiments. The CIA also claims it is not obligated to provide the veterans with medical care for side effects of the drugs. It’s the CIA’s third attempt to get the case dismissed.“In a 2009 federal lawsuit, Vietnam Veterans of America claimed that the Army and CIA had used at least 7,800 soldiers as guinea pigs in “Project Paperclip.” They were given at least 250 and as many as 400 types of drugs, among them sarin, one of the most deadly drugs known to man, amphetamines, barbiturates, mustard gas, phosgene gas and LSD.Among the project’s goals were to control human behavior, develop drugs that would cause confusion, promote weakness or temporarily cause loss of hearing or vision, create a drug to induce hypnosis and identify drugs that could enhance a person’s ability to withstand torture.The veterans say that some of the soldiers died, and others suffered grand mal seizures, epileptic seizures and paranoia. The veterans say the CIA promised in the 1970s to compensate those who were made guinea pigs, but the 2009 complaint states that the government “never made a sincere effort to locate the survivors.”In its 32-page motion to dismiss the group’s third amended complaint, the CIA claims it has no legal obligation under the Administrative Procedures Act to provide the veterans with notice of the drugs’ health effects and that the veterans’ notice claim “rests solely on state common-law duty.”The CIA claims that the law on which the veterans base their claim for health care compensation stems from the Department of Defense and Army regulations, “which do not purport to have a binding affect on the CIA.” And it claims that the Defense Department “never intended nor committed to providing medical care for service member participants in the test programs.”Based upon the CIA’s assertion that the US Defense Department “never intended nor committed to providing medical care for service member participants in the test programs” clearly shows their knowing of the existence of these “mind control” assassins, like Loughner, leading one to wonder how many more of them are out there, and even worse, when they will strike next.One can only hope that there is some “power” in America today able to stop the madness currently taking over that once great nation before all is truly lost, we hope it is much sooner than later for all of the worlds sake.Source
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